CO129-590-11 Commission of Enquiry into irregularities in Immigration Departments 22-4-1941 - 19-12-1941 — Page 144

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that time you did not think experience had indicated

the nature of the problems?

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Rudner: Up to that time experience had been imileating the

problems to be met. t the outset it was difficult to I know nothing, as you are aware,

know what problems.

because the organisation of the Department was never

referred to me in my form whatever.

Forrest: I think it might be a presumption that every

Goverment officer supplied with a copy of the Government Gazette is acquainted with the Government's proposals

and reads the Government Gazette with reference to its

probable effect on his own Jepartment. You must have given some consideration to the question of how the institution of this Department might affect your

particular problems.

The minute of Mr. J.C. Taylor of 31st October, written on my behalf and with my approval, is indication of that

And the fact that we recommended to you a form of

departmental cash book and also a form of permit.

recommended you various general lines which these permits should take, which you did not see fit to accept completely

at the outset.

Are you prepared to say that it was Mr. Taylor of your Department who approached me rather than that I approached Mr. Taylor on the general question of financial

organization in the Immigration Office?

I could not remember who actually mentioned it first. If I were to say that I went to lir. Taylor and sought his advice in the first instance, before the Department opened

at all, would you be prepared not to contradict it?

I could not contradict it.